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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2004 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

krausatis wrote:
I did
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golem:/home/sebl # e2fsck -pfc /dev/hda4
nyarlathotep (/dev/hda4): 139759/572320 Dateien (1.5% nicht verbunden ), 557569/1144631 Blöcke

Might this be the reason?


>>nyarlathotep<< there is something evil in your box

(Sorry couldnt resist... ;))
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2004 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This might be completely off track, but some programs need a hostname to start up quickly. Emacs is one of them. Another is Gnome.

Do you have a hostname set on both systems?

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2004 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you tried prelink?
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 29, 2004 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, been thinking you might have some bad linkage... Some apps might be statically linked while they should be dynamic and vice-versa.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 29, 2004 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Did you actually follow exactly the manual when installing? Got no broken /etc (etc-update)?

I ran etc-update recently. I ran it again:
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golem / # etc-update
Scanning Configuration files...
Exiting: Nothing left to do; exiting. :)

If there is still something wrong with my etc-files, I don't know what could cause the problems I am having.

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Do you have a hostname set on both systems?

Yes, I have.

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Have you tried prelink?

I guess you want me to build some packages statically. I'll post the results soon.

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>>nyarlathotep<< there is something evil in your box

I thought about that myself and ran an exorcism program: didn't help. So if if's evil, it's a nasty kind of evil. :wink:
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 29, 2004 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The evil gets a face:
I built a statically linked emacs and it started without delay.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 29, 2004 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Things are getting real weird. I chrooted from my SuSE partition to the gentoo partition
and built a statically linked emacs ( I added -static to CFLAGS and LDFLAGS). This one started quickly. At that time I wrote my former post. Then I booted gentoo, the static emacs started slowly. I built it again and it didn't improve. I booted SuSE again and remembered that I
forgot to bindmount dev and proc to the gentoo tree, the time I built the first static emacs.
So I built it again chrooted to /mnt/gentoo with dev and proc bindmounted: slow; then with /mnt/gentoo/proc umounted: slow; with both umounted: fast; with /mnt/gentoo/proc mounted: fast. I noticed that also the ordinary emacs started fast. I bindmounted dev: both started quickly;I exited, chrooted to gentoo again: everything wonderful. I exited, booted gentoo and I had my startup problem back. Even more strange: Booted back SuSE, I cannot build a fast static emacs (chrooted to gentoo, of course) no matter what I try.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 29, 2004 11:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I emerged prelink; it didn't help.
I built emacs and bash statically on my SuSE system, copied them to /mnt/gentoo, started a chroot with the static bash and started the static emacs: It took again 5 sec. Does this rule out any bad linkage?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It has now become really odd...

You sure you compiled them with right CFLAGS? Also, what GCC version did you use?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

neonik wrote:
It has now become really odd...

You sure you compiled them with right CFLAGS? Also, what GCC version did you use?
I don't think that this is becoming odd. I noticed that Gentoo has become slower & slower for me as well. I can't prelink because certain binaries won't work anymore [kdeinit can't be found or something like that]. I think that Gentoo might be becoming bloated in some sort of way.

I've basically unset every USE variable, yet it all starts so slow. Everytime I upgrade, the boot up pauses in more & more places. I'm beginning to hate Gentoo. I'm trying to avoid complaining, though. That's not my point. I mention these negative things for the sake of emphasis.

Disclaimer: I'm not an expert, but I'm not a newbie either.

I looked @ that fellows configurations [except .config because it takes so long, & I wouldn't know any better], & they all seem to look good. For my own computer, I noticed that my "emerge info" output didn't match the portage version that was most recently emerged.

I wonder if this has anything to do with devfs. Did anybody try running Gentoo without it?
This whole thing is becoming messier & messier.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My problem is gone! Well, I formatted my gentoo partition and build everything anew from stage1 and without any CLAGS. Not an obvious step to do, I had gentoo installed three times from scratch and I always faced the problems I mentioned. But this time it worked, don't ask me why.
Thanks to you, Neonik, and all of you, who gave me advice. Without your compassion, I might not have tried another install and so my gentoo experience would have ended here.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2004 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's great. Glad it works now :)
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