ntp-client question/issue

mcnutty · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 29 Dec 2009 Posts: 145

I've got two Gentoo machines on my network that both have ntp-client installed and running as a service. They both use the same default configuration. However, when I run the date command on each machine they report slightly different times (off from each other by about 3-6 seconds). I would expect them to be closer than this, but I'm not very knowledgeable about ntp, so I'm not sure. Any advice on whether this is normal or how to fix the issue would be appreciated.

guitou · Guru Joined: 02 Oct 2003 Posts: 534 Location: France

Hi.
For what I could understand, in order to avoid time issues, when computer clock is not right on time, ntpdate does not fix it immediately, but by little steps.
So you may expect clock difference to get lower and lower with time.
But if discrepancy persists, then you may have an issue.

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pa4wdh · l33t Joined: 16 Dec 2005 Posts: 921

Keep in mind that ntp-client is just a one-shot sync, after that the clocks will both go their own way. PC clocks are usually very low quality, so some drift is to be expected.

If you want to keep the clocks synchronized ntpd is what you need, this will query the other clock at regular intervals and take measures to keep your clocks in sync.
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mcnutty · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 29 Dec 2009 Posts: 145

Ah, ok, thanks! Somehow I got the mistaken impression ntp-client was for syncing periodically and ntpd was for using my machine as a secondary/tertiary ntp server. I'll try running ntpd and see if that helps.

Tony0945 · Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2021 6:27 pm Post subject:

pa4wdh · l33t Joined: 16 Dec 2005 Posts: 921

Of course you can run ntpdate via cron, but why don't use ntpd how it's supposed do work? They are in the same package so if you install one you get the other for free, and ntpd gets higher accuracy than ntpdate. As an example of it's accuracy: The clock on my desktop now is only 4 microseconds off.
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Tony0945 · Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 2:20 pm Post subject:

I don't care about microseconds. Also, I see the latest version wants to use cloudflare. I may go with one of the alternatives. Or just an old version. I used to sync with the nearby Atgonne Lab and that was fine with me.

pietinger · Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 2:36 pm Post subject:

For a private User having a desktop or notebook I recommend to shutdown the machine every day before you go to bed. This will save electricity and is more healthy for your machine. So it is quite sufficient only using ntpdate.

A server machine of course needs ntpd !

Tony0945 · Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 2:43 pm Post subject:

pietinger · Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 3:02 pm Post subject:

Fitzcarraldo · Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 3:37 pm Post subject:

Just to throw another approach into the mix... I use NetworkManager Dispatcher to synchronise the system clock in my laptops only when a network connection is made:

Just for the fun of it, I changed /etc/conf.d/ntp-client to use the command ntpd instead of ntpdate, even though the ntpdate command works fine. Anyway, here’s my /etc/conf.d/ntp-client file these days:

pa4wdh · l33t Joined: 16 Dec 2005 Posts: 921